Wednesday, November 18, 2009

Holdens view on Luce

Luce and Holden have a weird relationship when he was in school with him it was more like a mentor and student relationship. Luce was the one who knew everything whether it was sex, literature, or school he was the intelligent person who had it together. But now Holden thinks that he was sort of Flitty but still a very intelligent guy, he goes to Columbia and he knows a lot about sex according to Holden.
At the bar Holden tries to get to know him but he is getting a little to personal with him. And Luce get's really annoyed with him. Holden brings up a flit that he see's and Luce doesn't like that and asks him when is he going to grow up. Then he asks how is sex life is going and Luce doesn't like that either and tells him to relax. Holden in some ways is trying to piss him off but yet relate to him at the same time but he keeps stepping over the line. And Luce is not really interested he is getting annoyed with him and eventually after many times of trying to connect and Luce not getting the "Quiet peaceful drink" he wants he tells holden he has to leave.
Luces significance in this book is just another way for Holden to show how he is trying to realte to someone he knows but how unsuccessful he is. He wants to relate to people but doesn't know how to so he tries to be funny but no one finds it humorous. Instead of bringing them closer and developing a friendship he instead pushes them away and ends u being lonely again.

2 comments:

  1. I felt the same way about Luce and Holden's relationship. It seemed like that Luce made the transition to adulthood but since Holden hasn't, Luce doesn't thing that they have much in common.

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  2. I agree re re girl. Holden seems to look up to Luce, while Luce seems to be annoyed with Holden and doesn't seem to want to share personal stuff with him. I think Luce may have expected Holden to have grown up a little bit since he left high school... but as he quickly learned, Holden had not. Luce was the first person to really point this out about Holden.

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